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Q&A from LA Times on Measles Vaccine

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There is no shortage of opinions flying around the internet about measles. Some are easily shared via social media. This particular one I felt I needed to add a bit of my thought process, for the people that feel the family that chooses to not vaccine is the fault of outbreaks.

The eyebrow raisers for me from this PRO-vaccine article

Q: Why do some people still get measles even though they received two shots?

A: In some people, the vaccine doesn’t produce enough antibodies to fight off the measles virus. One reason is “waning immunity.” In the 1960s and ’70s, the systems of immunized people had to regularly fight off the measles virus. Practice makes perfect. But now, immune systems are out of practice and some people who got the shots in the 1960s, ’70s and ’80s may be more susceptible today.

So, this is saying the vaccine doesn’t always work. The people “regularly” FOUGHT-OFF “the measles virus” it does not say they regularly died. It also states “practice makes perfect.” Why did they need to mess with perfection? And now those that were vaccinated in the 60’s 70’s & 80’s are MORE SUSCEPTIBLE!!

Q: What is illness like if you have already been fully vaccinated?

A: In most people, it can be a weaker form of illness than in unvaccinated people, Cherry said.

Well, that sounds like a good deal. People who get the vaccine can still contract measles, but it is a “weaker form.” So, they are less likely to realize they have measles, more likely to socialize with the community, and more likely to spread the virus to others; including the immunocompromised and those unable to get the vaccine.

Q: Have doctors or healthcare providers been overlooking measles?

A: Yes, there have been some cases, according to the California Department of Public Health. The first symptoms are similar to other illnesses, like fever, coughing, sneezing and red, watery eyes. People can have these symptoms for about four days before developing the telltale rash that begins on the head and spreads to the rest of the body. In fact, even after the rash appears, doctors might forget to consider measles.

Now, the doctors don’t recognize the virus, because of the reliance of the vaccine and the assumption it always works, so it is mis-diagnosed, Lord only knows how often. If the telltale rash is mild because of the vaccine, I have to assume that a measles diagnoses is far less likely to happen. The virus is still very contagious once it is activated.

This article from Sciencemag.com is just as good/bad depends how you want to read it:
Measles Outbreak Traced to Fully Vaccinated Patient for First Time
“Although public health officials have assumed that measles immunity lasts forever, the case of Measles Mary highlights the reality that “the actual duration [of immunity] following infection or vaccination is unclear,” says Jennifer Rosen, who led the investigation as director of epidemiology and surveillance at the New York City Bureau of Immunization.”

“If it turns out that vaccinated people lose their immunity as they get older, that could leave them vulnerable to measles outbreaks seeded by unvaccinated people—which are increasingly common in the United States and other developed countries. Even a vaccine failure rate of 3% to 5% could devastate a high school with a few thousand students, says Robert Jacobson, director of clinical studies for the Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota, who wasn’t involved with the study.”

Again, it’s “seeded by the unvaccinated” even when there is vaccine failure!

This study shows how one fully vaccinated person spread the virus to 4 other “immunized” people.

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